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A Response to the Response- the White Papers and the Brain Trust

Submitted by on Wednesday, 27 June 201258 Comments

by Mike McLean

Recently I came across a thirty page manifesto which claims to be the voice of an oppressed student body fighting an unjust administration and the “White Papers.” It was released just a few days ago; I have already come across a number of passionate- even angry- responses against it. To tell you the truth I too had a strong initial reaction to the document. But rather than continue the cycle of rants and counter-rants, I’m going to try to put what historian skills I have in breaking “A Tale of Trinity” down piece by piece- the good and the bad.

It starts by claiming that it is a response to the White Papers. If you are unfamiliar with the White Papers, the document stated a number of goals that Trinity should reach by 2023- the bicentennial. One of the focal points became the papers’ hinting at a removal of Greek life, citing that it was damaging our reputation and academic excellence, and that we were one of three remaining NESCAC schools with fraternities. However, the response does not immediately address this subject, so why don’t we start with the basics and some of the missteps.

The paper clearly took a lot of work. Except for a number of grammatical mistakes, it is well written, uses sources, and has a table of contents. It is a collaboration between five students, who take pseudonyms such as Adam Smith and George Orwell. This to me is one of the more ridiculous ideas- not only do they fear some kind of repression from the administration for exercising their right to free speech, but they consider themselves in the company of famous economists and writers. This is only the first of many, sometimes comical, delusions.

There are many issues with a document like this. For one thing, there is a lack of a clear idea. Topics range from technology to spending. It is also riddled with contradictions and often void of any real suggestions. One of the first sections engages in a sweeping criticism of liberal arts education and advocates “practical learning.” However, the only actual suggestion to improve academics in that section is for students to have two advisors instead of one. Of course later the paper says we need to have more philosophy classes and spend more time examining “What makes each individual unique?” This challenges their own idea that the only point of college is to get a well-salaried job (neglecting of course any mention of improving the world, helping others, or following your passion). The ridiculousness does not end there.

They single out specific professors as part of their sweeping criticism of Trinity’s faculty, complaining of being treated as inferiors. They talk of studying in fear of exploding pipes and collapsing roofs. They discuss the need for a greater connection with the community, but there is no mention of racism, student on student violence and bigotry, elitism, partying, the negative aspects of fraternity culture, or how “security kiosks” would affect our already fragile relationship with the surrounding area (all while making a number of assumptions about the nature of the assault last semester- the same assumptions that severely scarred the aforementioned relationship).

At times it sounds more like self-righteous fluff than reasonable demands from an articulate group of students (at one point being anti-frat is equated to the policies of North Korea, and later a meme is used to disparage President Jones). To conclude, it states that after all of the issues we have faced, it is now time to actually expand fraternities and make cultural houses more frat-like. Now I really have nothing against Greek life on a personal level- I have many close friends who are brothers and sisters in various organizations, and I too have good memories of time spent at some of the houses- but this is no time for such an expansion.

Fraternities are not purely evil, immoral institutions, and I’m sure issues would arise in the aftermath of a removal, but we cannot even pretend to be serious about social change until we eliminate Greek life entirely. As a member of the Honor Council, I can tell you that literally every case I was on involving acts of bigotry, violence and abuse included Greek life in one way or another. At the end of the day, frats are institutionalized partying. They attract the wrong students and create the wrong students, and do not belong at an institution of higher learning. Finally, if you are serious about safety, you should be serious about their removal (i.e. more than a few kiosks). More safety is crucial, but a holistic approach is necessary, and you cannot neglect the role that Greek life plays if you want to make a real difference. Now that being said, even after all of these issues, I can’t say that the Brain Trust’s paper was entirely negative.

Between the jokes, there were some valid suggestions. I love the idea of an open curriculum, like the ones that Brown and Amherst have. We should absolutely have more competition on campus in the form of different businesses, so quality goes up and prices go down. Philosophy should be encouraged. Spending should come under control and wasteful projects should be scrapped. We should have a more active career services and more oversight of the Student Government. But that being said, even these positive ideas (as much as I like them) lack any true creativity. Some are actually recycled from the White Papers.

Still, I appreciate their attempt to begin a dialogue, as flawed as this first attempt may be. What we need now is honest discussion and a rational approach to the problems that affect Trinity College. Otherwise all we do is come off as self-entitled fools without even the slightest idea of what is truly best for our beloved college. If this trend persists, nothing will change- at least not for the better.

  • Guest

    Where can we find the document this is referring to?

    • Mike Mclean

      Sorry I didn’t include the link- I had to shorten the article down. Anyway, here it is! I hope you enjoy it as much as I did… http://braintrustoftrinity.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/transforming-trinity-college1.pdf

      • Guest

        It’s impossible to respond to everything here. Let me instead offer one comment. In all the discussion about fraternities, this for me is the bottom line: this past year, a woman was attacked with a knife at a fraternity party; a first-year student was beaten up at a fraternity party; and, most egregious, a vicious assault was perpetrated against a fraternity member after an off-campus party sponsored by a fraternity, and it seems common knowledge that the assailants were Trinity students, likely also at least some of them fraternity members.

        None of these crimes has been solved because no one who knows what happened has come forward. You can talk all you want about the “community service” fraternities provide, the desperate need for “social life,” and so on. But organizations that cover up violent crimes simply have no place on campus no matter what alleged good they claim to do. For me, this “wall of silence” belies any claim that fraternities provide any value. They must be abolished.

        Does any fraternity member with knowledge of who committed these crimes — and remember, they are all violent felonies that deserve jail time — have the courage to come forward, give an account, name names, and help see to it that the people who committed these crimes are punished?

        Until that happens, let’s not debate the pros and cons of fraternities. It’s really beside the point.

        • KL 11

          If you think the world works like that, where people will willingly come forward with information because it may help someone regardless of the harm it could bring to them, their friends, or their organizations, then you are stunningly simple minded. You use a select few occurrences to prove a point, and you chose such a sample size because it makes your point, not because it is an accurate portrayal of what actually happens. While i was at Trinity (very recently) nothing like that happened at the frats, and to say that it’s all gone to hell in just over a year would also be similarly simple minded answer.
          Get rid of frats and things will get better? That’s absurd. The frats were a response to the need of Trinity students to have a place to get together on the weekends and maybe drink, maybe not. So the frats formed, people started going to their parties or just to them on the weekends, and now the “demand” to go to these frats has grown and has lead to long lines and not everyone getting in. First off, that’s life: It’s THEIR house and it also has limited space. Second, with this in mind, it looks as though you have equated the frats to making college students want to drink, to socialize, or to act in a sometimes destructive manner. These actions are not a product of fraternity life; they are a product of being young and immature. College is a time when you are supposed to grow, and doing these things now helps mold you. When i was at trinity, i did many many things i would NEVER do now, but i’m glad that i did them in a semi-controlled environment like Trinity. Get rid of the frats and the students will go elsewhere, probably off campus, which is not the answer. If drinking is going to occur, why not try to regulate it on campus grounds where the school can make sure its done safely? That doesn’t mean get rid of the frats, or make the frats let anyone in who comes to the door. Give the students more options on campus as to where they can spend their time on the weekends and also drink and it wont be an issue anymore. 

          If students start living in sports houses or choir houses and mock trial houses, and have huge parties and don’t let everyone in, does that mean that the coaches, or the faculty who choose the members of these groups, are creating this over-selective lifestyle at Trinity? Is it they who are creating the atmosphere of selectivity at Trinity? Most certainly not; Trinity is extremely selective in its admission already, maybe it starts there? To say that the frats create entitlement may be true in a sense, but that can be said about many different organizations on campus. Getting rid of the frats will not change the “partying” mentally of college students (that idea is ingrained in their heads from a young age by MANY different sources), so if you dont like them, then don’t go. Lots of people want to go to the frats on the weekends, to their ticket parties when they have them, while there are far fewer who do not. Why would the minority want to limit the options of the majority who have no problem with the frat life? Is the “destructive behavior” of loud music, drinking, and sex really destroying your moral being as you sit in your dorm room or in some other location? No, it is not, and to say otherwise is a lie. The real truth is that you do not agree with their actions, which is your right, but you do NOT have the right to take away the frats just because you disagree with them. That is the real elitism that needs to be destroyed from Trinity. 

          • Guest

            You miss the point. At least three violent crimes were committed this past year at frats. Similar crimes were not committed at other campus venues. The benefits frats supposedly bring cannot be weighed against these crimes and somehow compensate for them. The silence shows that frats inculcate in their members a sense that the organization is more important than people who are harmed. (You admit this yourself.) This is simply sick. I am not so naive to think that eliminating frats will solve all problems, but your argument amounts to saying that if we cannot end all murders, why bother to prosecute any?

          • Donald Haffenden

            You mentioned why the Frats were “formed”, by this I think you mean invited on campus. I think that may be an issue. They should have, I think were initially (or “should” have been) invited onto campus first and foremost for all the benefits accepted Brothers and Sisters get when they pledge such institutions. The party aspect was simply an “icing on the cake” tertiary thing.

            Also, you say Guest above makes only a few references to issues. With respect KL, many of these issues are simply repeated offenses, and often times unreported gripes with how things are run. They are more numerous then people admit (maybe not from your personal experience and perspective, but from other’s definitely), and constintuet more than a good out ways bad response. Even if the number of incidents are as smal as you suggest, they caliber and gravity of some of them are enough to cause concern. Does this mean close all Frats, not necessarily, because you’ll only de-centralized the problem. Does this mean hold both Frats and the administration accountable to all the rules that other organizations are held to, then yes. Does it mean address the issues that exist in a real and effective way to minimize or eliminate the existing issues and not let them exist on the simple premise that they are inevitability, or deny the outright? Absolutely. As much as we like to think that we are all emerging mature adults than should act responsibly, we know that they’re are adults in our personal lives who act immaturely. Suffice it to say, these are those adults younger years. We’ve gotta handle them because their immature acts will not be tolerated.

            Quote 1: ” and now the “demand” to go to these frats has grown and has lead to
            long lines and not everyone getting in. First off, that’s life: It’s
            THEIR house and it also has limited space.”

            You’re right-ish, but it wouldn’t be that big of a deal if people were not keep outside for more than an overcrowding issue.

            Quote 2: Is the “destructive behavior” of loud music, drinking, and sex really
            destroying your moral being as you sit in your dorm room or in some
            other location? No, it is not, and to say otherwise is a lie.

            I say to this first, that an say otherwise is simply  disagreement, not a lie, because to say it would be a lie is to imply that your statement is an incontrovertible truth. That said, my response is that it may not destroy ones personal moral being if they know not that the “destructive behavior” (glad you called it that) is happening given the privilege of being ignorant to it happening. But this is highly improbable to happen, namely because they such behavior sully the school’s name, everyone is affect by the actions of a few, and those non-culprits who allow it to happen are nearly equally to blame for sidelining. Therefore, this behavior simply cannot be justified to continue. I can’t imagine how. If my previous question is a begging of the question, so be it.

            I think an underlying issue is this assumption than we are entitled to drink, and that’s our main focus at college. Though social drinking has become something of a self-perpetuated inevitability, it is not a guarantee, but a privilege. The school is lenient as appose to strict local, state, and federal laws inches outside of Trinity gates. They try to accomdate us on the premise that we’ll act responsibly. Each incident related, or even not related, to alcohol (but they are plenty of alcohol ones) sully the school trust in students. Each one is the taking of a mile from the offered inch, or better even, the 100 yards.

          • Guest

            I’m struck again and again that defenders of frats seem to have no real response to criticism. Their case seems to come down to, “I have the right to do whatever I goddam please.” Trinity says it teaches critical thinking skills, among other things. If this is the best response frat members can mount, then they themselves prove the case that frats impede education.

  • Guest
  • Guest

    “As a member of the Honor Council, I can tell you that literally every case I was on involving acts of bigotry, violence and abuse included Greek life in one way or another” That is the most ridiculous statement I have heard in my entire life. 

    • Mike Mclean

      Excellent rebuttal sir. While I can’t give you any details about the cases I was on, that statement was actually not hyperbole. If you’d like to prove me wrong go ahead and join the Honor Council so you can see for yourself. 

  • Nitin Sajankila

    How does preparing students for a career in business equate with an open curriculum that allows students to study what they want? The Brain Trust doesn’t have a clear agenda. Instead, they each seem to have personal issues with Trinity. The first author seems to forget that we are not all business majors. We attend Trinity for the sake of a liberal arts education, one that broadly prepares us for any career and equips us with necessary the skills for more advanced study. Otherwise,  it wouldn’t be possible for me to major in mathematics and be premed, and still find meaning in my major relevant to a future career as a physician. Also, the suggestion for two advisors is unnecessary. We live on such a small campus… if you want to stay close to your freshman-year advisor just swing by and say hello every semester! It really isn’t that difficult. One of the later authors mentions a lack of grants available to Trinity College students. But, what about Projects for Peace…? Students from our school annually receive $10,000 to implement projects of their own design around the world. It would definitely be nice to see more opportunities like this at Trinity, but it’s hard to say that none are currently available. Of course there is a lot that can be improved! But, the Brain Trust has ignorantly approached the issue of creating change. A blog of hate is not going to accomplish anything or scare the administration. Anyways, GREAT ARTICLE!

    • Mike Mclean

      Thanks Nitin- you said it all! What we need is an honest discussion, not self-important, delusional rhetoric from students who think they’re part of some kind of anti-tyranny underground. 

      • Andrew Terhune

        Mike,

        Where can I see this paper you’re discussing?

  • Guest

    Terrific post! This is the kind of dialogue we need to improve TC. Not that Brain Trust garbage.

  • guest

    You make an outrageous claim that fraternities “attract the wrong students and create the wrong students” However in the paragraph before that quote you stated,  ” I have many close friends who are brothers and sisters in various
    organizations, and I too have good memories of time spent at some of the
    houses”. If you spend time at some of the houses, its safe to assume that something about them attracts you and makes you want to spend time at that fraternity. Do you see yourself as one of those “wrong students”? What is a “wrong student”? 

    The only thing the administration is worried about is how other see Trinity. They are worried that we as a school drink too much. The concern over the consumption of alcohol among students at trinity is nothing new. This was a hot topic in 70′s where the administration created new rules that limited the consumption of alcohol very much like the new social policies today. The funny this is that the policies were implemented the same way, without first discussing it with the student body. This is where Trinity has failed us. In the 70′s the new policies were met with a lot of opposition and in the end they didn’t make much of a difference. This time around instead of learning from history the administration foolishly decides to try again.

    By hinting at trying to get rid of the fraternities Trinity has shot itself in the foot. Many alums feel that fraternities help make Trinity great and the idea of getting rid of them seems crazy to them. Because of the anti-fraternity sentiment Trinity administration put out, alumni donations have gone down since last year. At this time last year trinity raised  $470,125 more than this year in cash gifts alone, and had over 1,000 more donations by alum and parents. I realize that the decrease in numbers cannot be accredited to the new social policies but I know that quite a few of them are.

    Finally I want to touch on your statement “I can tell you that literally every case I was on involving acts of
    bigotry, violence and abuse included Greek life in one way or another”. To your statement I say, so what?  When did people stop taking responsibility for their own actions? When did the excuse of being at a fraternity make it excusable to make stupid and reckless decisions?  If someone get drunk at a bar and starts a fight is it the bars fault? If someone takes one too many shots and yells out a racial slur should the bar be held accountable? I think we all know the answer to these questions. So why are fraternity any different?

    People drink in fraternities. People drink in bars. People drink in their dorms and on the quad. PEOPLE DRINK AT COLLEGE. Its time Trinity accepted this fact and leave our social lives alone, because at the end of the day fraternities are not forcing anyone to chug beers and take shots. All alcohol is consumed voluntarily. I say its better to party on campus in a fraternity than venture out into Hartford, because if Trinity allows students to get mugged and assaulted on campus grounds think of what would happen if students were spread out all across Hartford area.

    • Bridget Tevnan

      “Think of what would happen if students were spread out
      all across the Hartford area.” What a terrible thought right? I shutter as
      I imagine students interacting in a community with diverse views, expanding
      their perspective, learning to be citizens in a new environment, having
      compelling conversations, volunteering, moving past stereotypes, being forced
      to act in a mature manner where the behavior displayed on Vernon St. would be
      unacceptable. Yeah we better encourage students to stay on campus, tell them as
      they tour Trinity that the surrounding area is unsafe and that everything you
      could ever need is right here.
      I’m so tired of the listening to our student body condemn the Hartford
      community and uphold an attitude of parochialism that undeniably percolates
      into our social culture. Can we please stop reinforcing the idea that the only
      danger we will face is outside the walls of academia? What no one wants to
      admit is that when alcohol is abused the way that it is at Trinity (and at
      colleges throughout the country) usually the greatest threats to our student
      body do not come from outside, but rather from within.

      • Bridget Tevnan

        *Shudder-because we’re definitely not talking about windows…oops!

    • Donald Haffenden

       

      (You make an
      outrageous claim that fraternities “attract the wrong students and create
      the wrong students” However in the paragraph before that quote you
      stated,  ” I have many close friends who are brothers and sisters in
      various
      organizations, and I too have good memories of time spent at some of the
      houses”. If you spend time at some of the houses, its safe to assume that
      something about them attracts you and makes you want to spend time at that
      fraternity. Do you see yourself as one of those “wrong students”?
      What is a “wrong student”?)

       

      I see this as an understandable attempt to insinuate a
      potential contradiction, even hypocrisy in Mike’s statement here. I will
      illustrate my response to this first with an example, if a bad person says the
      sky is blue, does that person’s bad nature make the spoken fact an less true?
      It does not. I am not saying that Mike’s associations and past social
      engagements were “bad” or “wrong”, but I see his inclusion of these
      associations and past social engagements at the fraternities as an attempt to
      concede that fraternities are not inherently bad, but rather in spite of these
      potentialities for positive interaction with the fraternity house as the social
      fulcrum, Trinity’s campus nonetheless suffers very broadly from the overall
      reckless behavior which happens in such alcohol saturated settings which have
      lead to more negative implications one a widespread scale, than positive
      personal redeeming experiences. Therefore, his former positive associations and
      past social engagements at the fraternities does not contradict his observation
      of negativity involved with fraternities, as evidenced in honor council
      hearing. All one need look at is the administrations bi-yearly email detailing
      the loss details of this behavior, though much of it goes uncaught and
      unreported. Again, does this mean that fraternities are all bad: no; however,
      we cannot ignore the attraction they have to such people liable to make poor
      decisions with ramifications on other students, and on the school as a whole
      which brings me to another point of yours.

       

      (When did people stop
      taking responsibility for their own actions? When did the excuse of being at a
      fraternity make it excusable to make stupid and reckless decisions?  If
      someone get drunk at a bar and starts a fight is it the bars fault? If someone
      takes one too many shots and yells out a racial slur should the bar be held
      accountable? I think we all know the answer to these questions. So why are
      fraternity any different?)

       

      While I agree that people should be held accountable for
      their actions personally, I do not agree with your assessment of the student
      action/choices-to-college relationship, or your parallel of fraternities to
      bars. It seems uncontroversial that person who gets plastered and does stupid stuff
      at a bar should be held responsible for their actions. But should the bar not
      cut someone off at a certain point. Is not shot # 17 enough? Though there may
      be no legal responsibility, perhaps a moral one should be thought about in the instance.
      Though fundamentally, bars are motivated by profit, and as such have no
      incentive to cut off a paying customer; however, fraternities make no direct
      student profit off of alcohol propagation. There is no incentive to give into a
      person who keeps coming back. Another point is this: should we have a bar on a
      college campus in the first place? College policy is lenient, they could enforce
      the law, which is under 21, and you’re arrested or otherwise legally reprimanded.
      Most large university students live with this fact, but on small liberal art campuses,
      this is all but a reality. Therefore, we feel entitled to drink. Rather, we are
      being afforded a courtesy some choose to abuse recklessly. In the end, a
      fraternity isn’t a bar nor to my understanding is its main focus partying. Partying
      and alcohol are secondary, yet large, aspects. Nonetheless, when a students actions
      because of alcohol has negative effects with regard to other students, and with
      the school’s image, the responsibility of the student is to act responsibly
      while drinking, something a person at bar need not worry about save their own perception
      by others, and how they act towards others.

       

      Here is a small third
      point on the comment about the dangers students
      face in Hartford. Regular residents face the same dangers, daily, in Hartford,
      and other metropolises globally. We take our college experience for granted.

       

      Ultimately, Guest, I respect your opinion, but respectfully
      disagree with some of what you had to say. Though my response was opinionated,
      it try to taper it with objective logic and assessment of your arguments. I
      hope they are convincing if not in opinion, then in my view of the merits of
      your arguments and their form.

    • Mike Mclean

      Wow; so many points to discuss. First of all, thank you for your comments. This is the kind of discussion Trinity needs, and I’m always ready to hear a different perspective than my own. I know how passionate some people are about preserving Greek life, and I think it’s a very interesting perspective indeed. Anyway, here we go.

      I mentioned that I have friends in frats and good memories at frats because, as Donald pointed out, I’m trying to show that I have no ill-will towards frats. They’re not all bad and I recognize that. Rather I’m approaching this from as rational a thought-process as I can. That is, I am not 100% anti-frat on a personal level- that would make me completely biased. The opposite would be someone who is in a frat- they too would be biased on a personal level. These extremes can be useful, but I’m simply illustrating that I’m approaching this from a middle-ground. And to be more specific, you can be in a frat or go to frats and be great people and students. What I’m saying is that the culture of partying at Trinity attracts irresponsible, apathetic students who are sometimes destructive and violent (as shown by the recent study in reach 30% of the incoming freshmen class already had drinking problems before matriculating- double the national rate). This is before students even get here, and changes who applies to Trinity and who accepts- a kind of selection effect if you will. After they get here, the same culture that attracted many of these people now serves to encourage partying and drinking on a ridiculous level, even compared to similar schools. Anyway, that’s an elaboration on my “wrong student” comment.

      Your next point is that the administration only cares about our image. Great. Good for them. That’s not what I care about and it shouldn’t be what any student at Trinity cares about (by the way- just one of the many arguments the South used before the Civil War in regards to slavery). What I care about is about making Trinity a better place, as best I can. I believe that one of the ways that Trinity will improve, both socially and safety-wise, is through a removal of Greek life. It’s a radical position, I know, but I really only think of it as step 1 in a broader progression that Trinity truly needs. And I think you really hit the nail on the head! We should learn from history, not repeat it. We’ve been dealing with the same issue for decades. The White Papers and the new Social Policy are just superficial stalls. Furthermore, the administration has already tried in the past to reach out to Greek life and work together for a better community- to no avail. To get real change, frats should go. Unless you think acts of drunken racism and violence, apathetic students, and record-breaking hospitalizations due to alcohol belong at Trinity. In that case, lets never change anything. Next, I really liked your section about donations. If that is true, you’ve really done your research and therefore my own perspective has expanded. In response, I would say that it is very difficult to link cause and effect. For instance, we are in a recession, and literally everyone has lost a considerable portion of their donations. But if your suspicion is correct, I say see you later! Many Alums were also upset when we allowed African-Americans to attend Trinity. Others stopped donating when women started to come. As much as it may hurt, we can’t worry about what alums think if it means halting progress and diminishing our school. We didn’t inherit the school from the alums, we’re borrowing it from the students who follow us. It is our duty to make it better, even when rich people disagree with how we do it. And if you look at history- during all of these moments when some people threatened to stop sending money, many in fact recognized the progress that was being made and endowment actually increased. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same happens here. 

      Now to your final few points. I really can’t argue with your initial logic. Guns don’t kill people- people kill people. Right? Guess what- I actually do agree. Frats don’t get people blackout drunk, people chose to get blackout drunk. And they’re only hurting themselves, right? Well that’s where your wrong. Usually its the people who made responsible choices who are victimized- in the form of vandalism, bigotry, and even violence. But it’s our right, isn’t it? Well then don’t we also have the right to drink and drive? Or how about opening up a dog fighting ring? What about selling automatic weapons in the cave? Well because these are things which, like frats, encourage the wrong behavior and attract the wrong people, can hurt others besides the people doing said behavior, and simply do not belong at a place where people come to learn. 

      And now we come to the crux of your argument. It’s my personal favorite, so I’ll quote you: “People drink in fraternities. People drink in bars. People drink in their dorms and on the quad. People drink at college. It’s time Trinity accepted this fact…” You are absolutely right. We have record breaking alcoholism, even for Trinity. It’s a major problem that affects how competitive we are, who comes here, how people are treated, and how safe students are, but what’s the point? Poverty, obesity, fanny packs- these are tragedies that are here to stay. No point in trying to change things, right? Or maybe, just maybe, it’s time for a change. There’s nothing wrong with drinking in a responsible manner, but I believe that Greek life encourages a culture in which irresponsible drinking is the norm, leading to the aforementioned issues. People will still drink. In fact, people will still have a fun college experience. People who binge drink and wreak havoc on the school will still exist, but they will be the exception- not the rule. 

      For your very last sentence, I think Bridgit has me covered. And by the way, what’s with the anonymity? If you show your real name, nobody’s going to assassinate you or heaven forbid remove you as a Facebook friend. This is the debate Trinity needs to have, so relax. Anyway, thanks again for your input. As much as I disagree with you I still appreciate your thoughts and insight into this difficult, complex issue. Cheers!

  • Asjdk23ui

    So it was written by white frat brothers (or kids who want to become frat brothers)

    • Mike Mclean

      Well that’s an assumption, not a fact, and we shouldn’t spread such rumors. Otherwise all we’re doing is contributing to the cycle of ignorance that groups like Brain Trust begin.

  • Freespeech

    Looks like the braintrust blog has been shut down.  Regardless of your views its upsetting that some forces have worked to shut down legitimate voices in our community.

    • Mike Mclean

      Well that’s a shame, I would have liked to hear their response. Like you, I am 100% in favor of free speech and would welcome their rebuttal. But that being said, I don’t think anyone “shut them down.” They either got bored and moved on or they’re doing this to try to seem repressed and victimized. So let me speak directly to them. NOBODY CARES. All you’re doing is reciting unoriginal ideas with a clear agenda. Just because you think you’re part of some secret society does not make you cool and edgy. It makes you delusional. Get over it. Nobody’s stopping you from voicing your opinions- they’re just telling you that they’re ridiculous, regurgitated opinions. That is all. Thank you for your comment Freespeech. 

      • Freespeech

        While I agree with you anonymity probably isn’t the most effective way to conduct debate, the accusations thrown at supporters of the status quo makes it a lot more appealing.  Being called alcoholic, womanizing racists isn’t as fun as it sounds and being dismissed as such leads a lot of students actually feeling victimized or at least sterotyped.  I don’t know who the braintrust is or why their blog was deleted, but I think we should find it suspious that it is gone one day after you gave them such publicity.  I don’t blame you for that of course but we should realize President Jones has made this White Paper his legacy which has put people’s brother and sisterhoods at risk.  I understand some of the frustration and tone in their writings though don’t excuse it.  Lastly everyone with mature political thoughts has some sort of an agenda in my experience so that hardly discredits anyone.

        • Donald Haffenden

           Honestly, Brain Trust as published on a free wordpress site. Unless they received some sort of administrative pressure to be brought down, during the summer….keeping in mind the publishers are anonymous, the site was brought down of their own accord. I know a good deal about wordpress, and a site like that can only be taken down by its’ creator. I doubt coercion was involved once the facts are examined, but the questions of why it was deleted still remains. Fact it, it appears to be a political maneuver on their part.

  • Brooke Grasberger ’12

    Your article is great, Mike, well-written and reasonable. I can’t, however, say the same for the Brain Trust paper. That poorly-written, poorly thought out piece was remarkable in its demonstration of surface knowledge: yes, anyone can look up quotes from Classical writers or pull random one-liners from academic papers. The abundance of ridiculous claims such as Trinity being a microcosm of the world and the utterly pretentious sense that the anonymous writers of the paper are taking some kind of actual risk made the whole thing laughable. 

    The suggestion that professors should refrain from expressing their own thoughts on a topic sounds close to the idiotic rule I encountered in high school, where my teachers could not share their thoughts on current politics at all. College students should be expected to be able to make their own decisions, and be independent-minded enough to consider all topics thoroughly. If a student needs to be hand-held through every aspect of a topic, perhaps they should not be at Trinity. And yes, shockingly enough, many students are not as academically advanced as their professors. No professor that I had in my four years, for example, would write something this terrible.
    There are many critiques that we as students and alumni can make of Trinity, and Trinity should encourage this in order to build a better community. This 

    • Brooke Grasberger ’12

      …only makes a mockery out what should be a well-thought through, open, and honest project.

      • Mike Mclean

        Thanks Brooke!

  • Lily

     
    I write this letter with the address to Mike; however, I intend it to be looked upon as an open response to the author of this article for other readers as well.
    Mike,
     I am so glad you wrote this.  You never fail to get your point of view across in a professional and well heard manner. However, I am surprised at some of the claims you make because of some other things for which you stand.  Considering that I know you as a person who stands for equality, and a person who would be very upset to be put in a generalization of any type, I am very surprised at generalizations and accusations you have made in this piece.  I am actually personally offended when it comes to some of them.  I do not agree with the authors of the Trinity papers either, I believe both parties are too biased and with tunnel vision.  I will not place blame solely on EITHER the administration or the Greek life at Trinity because the issues lie within the relationship between the two, and the fact that it is a constant power struggle between the two and that there are too many biases in the crossfire and not enough clear vision or comparative thinking.  In that sense I commend the authors of the Trinity papers. They have opened and supported their views by incorporating that which can be found in the world outside of Trinity. 
     
    The world outside of Trinity, which I believe every group that I am aware of speaking (or writing) publicly  has spoken on wanting to improve.  Not having current access to the Trinity Papers, I cannot be sure, but I believe I recall a part which touched on some sort of a requirement for us all to engage in the community.  I struggle with my own opinion on this because I struggle with community service being a requirement because it should not be looked upon as a requirement because it could then be looked at as a burden or punishment.  However, I realize that in the end MY opinion on the definition of service is not the important point when speaking of bettering the community.  The truth is that by making service a “requirement” the end result is not as much a burden on the students but rather an opportunity to get students out into Hartford and making connections with our greater community.  It makes the opportunity more accessible and instead of creating verbiage from the administration about how the students should be involved, it actually integrates the administration into the process and makes the availability for students to get involved with projects much greater.  The Trinity Papers also calls for a stronger faculty-student relationships.  Plenty of institutions require their salaried employees to engage in the greater community.  By creating an environment where students and faculty can commit to a project a couple of hours a week and integrate lesson for a school credit can only help with both our relationships within the greater community as well as Trinity students’ skills in the real world and touch on “practical learning”. 
     
    You, Mike, want to be careful about some of the words you choose to use.  You’re claim that these are “regurgitated opinions” only reinforces that these opinions are widely shared and voiced.  These authors should not be ridiculed for their attempt to present these – their – views in what they feel is a legitimate way. 
     
    You touch on your discomfort with the authors using pseudonyms.  With this matter I completely agree with you.  Your discomfort is expressed by the actual pseudonyms used as being the authors “consider themselves in the company of famous economists and writers” which in your opinion is a “comical delusion” of theirs.  While I respect your thoughts on this, I would like to focus more on your comment which reads “they fear some kind of repression from the administration for exercising their right to free speech”. 
     
    I agree that their use of these names gives the impression that there is reason for them to fear the administration.  However, I think it needs to be stated that there is NO reason they should feel this way as the administration has given every student ongoing opportunities to speak, be heard, and ask questions. 
     
    I believe that that the authors have actually added anonymousness to their piece in fear of their peers.  We tend to attack each other for our ideas instead of adapting multiple ideas into an all-inclusive solution.  (I’d like to think the service solution above could be considered an example of this). 
     
    It also suggests that these authors are not willing to receive criticism.  Criticism is how ideas become reality.  Contributions and tweaks that form from criticism are what progress comes from.  The reason I sign my name to this response is to welcome criticism, contributions, as well as statements of support.
     
    I also (as I am sure you are expecting me to discuss) am very disappointed and offended that you state: “At the end of the day, frats are institutionalized partying. They attract the wrong students and create the wrong students, and do not belong at an institution of higher learning.”  I am actually going to dissect this statement, as coming from a very respectable Greek background I find so many offenses in this statement.
     
    First – “At the end of the day, frats are institutionalized partying.”  I will make a few different points about this statement. 
     
    The use of the term “frat” instead of fraternity.  The term “frat” is considered a derogatory term which compares the members of the institution to stereotypes that overlook many of the values that each brother is held up to in order to be a part of the brotherhood.  The term “frat” omits the definition of fraternity, which is brotherhood, which is the backbone to an organization which has existed for as long as it has on a national spectrum.
     
    “Institutionalized partying”.  Yes, there is partying at a fraternity house.  However, there are parties hosted in most communal living spaces of college-aged people.  I know that whether it be a suite-style dorm room or a fraternity house, partying is something that happens on college campuses.  I also ask you to read the mission statements and requirements that national fraternities and sororities are held to and realize that partying is not institutionalized.  And, if Trinity is holding them to their mission statements and they are not doing it themselves it is a snowball effect on both sides.
     
    Now -  “They attract the wrong students and create the wrong students, and do not belong at an institution of higher learning.” Wow.
     
    I don’t even know where to start with this, Mike! If we took all of the students whom Greek life “attracts” and told them they do not belong at an institution of higher learning, our generation would lose out on a lot of very wonderful, talented, and inspirational young people getting the education that could help them make their potential impact in the greater community.  I think your statement voids itself with the lack of viable anything.  Great Presidents of the United States, Martin Luther King Jr, Supreme Court Justices, Congressmen and women, Members of the Presidential Cabinet, Famous social movement leaders, CEOs and founders of large companies such as Yahoo, Time, Microsoft and the Marriott Hotels, famous professional sports coaches and well known men in high ranking military positions: the list goes on and on. I personally have been working with men and women who want to know where my sisterhood is pledged in an office setting, it’s an institutions and an idea bigger than any one statement can possibly have. 
     
    Not being Greek at Trinity myself, shows that I do disagree with the Greek system at Trinity.  All I ask is that you open your mind to the idea that a fixed (yes, that might mean expanded) Greek life could not only improve social and academic life at Trinity, but in the greater community as well. 
     
    I don’t mean to attack you and say your wrong, I just don’t think your claims at really “breaking “A Tale of Trinity” down piece by piece- the good and the bad.” Are valid, because it appears you broke down the parts you support and made unsupported claims on the parts you don’t like.
     
    I really hope this is read with an open mind, and acceptance of criticism. Thank you

    • Mike Mclean

      Hey Lily! Thank you so much for this post. It was as thoughtful as it was classy. Now as I’m sure you understand, while I would love to address your response point by point, this has become a tiring process. Like my original article, I will try to be succinct, so please excuse the lack of in-depth explanation and a few generalizations. Rather than address everything you said, allow me to respond to what I believe are the two main themes. 1) I am sincerely sorry if you, or anyone for that matter, took offense to my article on a personal level- this was not my intention. When I use the word frat, it’s to save time and space, not to insult someone. All of the brothers I have become close friends with are great guys who I’m sure will go on to do incredible things in the world. In other words, I have no problem with any individuals who partake in Greek life. Rather, I have a problem with the culture, and I think that is a fair problem to have. 2) I understand that fraternities have positive impacts in various ways. However, I also believe that they contribute to a negative culture on campus. This would be tolerable were it not for all of the regrettable incidents that have occurred in connection to this culture. It seems that most people understand that the status quo is not ideal, and change should be made. I’ve put a lot of thought into this, and in somewhat of a utilitarian manner I now believe that an elimination of Greek life would be best for Trinity (i.e. the good would outweigh the bad- perhaps this is where we will reach an impasse). I respect the calls for reform, but reform has actually been attempted a number of times in a number of different ways, and things have either stayed the same or gotten worse. Drastic change is the only thing that will give us a chance of improving Trinity in any real way, and a removal of Greek life would be the most holistic approach that I can think of. Anyway, I’m sorry I couldn’t discuss all of your points, and thank you again for such a considerate yet challenging post. 

      • Lily

        Mike,
        I wonder what you expect to happen to that seen if you take the title “Greek life” out of it.  We know that there are ways to inforce rules on a Greek society that the school has not used.  There is no communication between Trinity and national Greek organizations, meaning these houses get to report what they want to report to nationals.  There is no system that rewards houses for their accomplishments in the community, they just aren’t punnished.  If there is not pressure for them to contribute because there is no involvement with nationals, and the school is constantly going head to head with threats of punnishment and there is no give and take there is not going to be a teammade reform.  ONe side can’t take take take, which is what both sides seem to want to do. By taking away Greek life completely you are going to create party houses that are harder to control because there is no power for the school to obtain…it will be an unassociated house. The consequences of only taking could be far greater.  In order to eliminate Greek life without making things worse, you would have to come up with a system for kids to feel as if they didn’t just lose.  I’m sorry to say that that is not possible because the label is a huge deal to a lot of people nationwide.  Why not bring in outside resources and create a system that both punishes and rewards groups under the label? The houses wont go away, but the control will

        • Mike Mclean

          Hey Lily, thanks again! All of your suggestions for reform are spot-on and thoughtful. Unfortunately, they’ve all been tried at one point or another. It’s more than a problem of simple execution or resolve- the problem is institution and cannot be fixed with reform. And you’re absolutely right that there would be problems in the aftermath of a removal, but again, I think that the good would outweigh the bad, and in the long run this is the right thing to do for our school. I still respect your opinion if you disagree; it is refreshing to hear a perspective that is well supported and compelling. 

          • Donald Haffenden

            I see your point Mike, but only wonder if these previously attempted reforms failed due to a failure on part of the administration’s lackluster enforcement of reform? Perhaps a reflection of their true sentiments and indicated in Lily’s above reply. Perhaps if the students provide enough pressure for reforms and oversight as to the progress and reinforcement of reform- even a student based oversight system- perhaps a control mechanics can work. Greek life does prosper in such settings in other colleges.

          • Lily

            Mike –

            I worry about this comment because it seems very tunnel vision.  When I speak of problems in the aftermath, I dont think it will be a couple of months or years even.  I think it will create a new normal.  The parties will be moved off campus where the school has no control.  They wont fade away eventually.  The entire nation is seeing increases in issues with partying at the college age.  Why would we want the administration to give up any control they might have? I just dont understand this aspect in your argument.  I dont see what “good” outweighs the bad because I really don’t think your getting rid of any bad by getting rid of the frats. I dont mean to attack, but I cant help question this motivation.

          • Mike Mclean

            Hey Lily, thanks again. No worries on the delay. I especially enjoyed your more detailed comment about reforming Greek life. There are certainly a number of good ideas there, some of which I’m sure haven’t been tried. I’m still skeptical about whether or not every fraternity at Trinity would accept such reforms, but if they did it could make a real difference. That being said, I think that the good would outweigh the bad in the event of a removal. I’m sure parties would move off campus at first, but Hartford has a lot to offer and it might not be a terrible thing for students to spend more time exploring and appreciating the city. Furthermore, there would still be plenty to do on campus, including parties regulated by the college. Finally, after our reputation as a party school is gone, I think that there would be less irresponsible partying overall. It would still happen, but after a while it would not dominate our social culture. Anyway, I’m sorry we can’t see eye-to-eye, but I’m really glad you commented. It’s refreshing to hear from a true Trinity student with good grammar and well-supported arguments. Have a good summer! 

    • Donald Haffenden

      Lily, thanks for adding such depth to a discussion. My overarching comment on your response, keeping in mind Mike’s reply, is this: College students are under the impression the partying is a “right”. Therefore, places such as frats (a short hand now and herein), become fulcrums of partying….with alcohol. This often leads to negative and dangerous occurrences, not to mention the selectivity of admission. From observation, and personal empiricism, more times that not I’ve witnessed and experienced people being turned down not due to overcrowding (which does happen), but also on other grounds. It stops being first come first serve, and becomes a hyper selectivity game. This is a mere mild example of some of the grips that people have with college party life, a defacto aspect of Greek life. To this issue I offer this little solution: Holds frats just as responsible as other groups for the ramifications of their actions. No preferential treatment. Often times if regulations on the books were upheld, may issues would not have to come to pass.

      • Lily

        Donald,
        I understand your point completely, and it is valid, I agree that these incidents are inevitable in a “fulcrum of partying”.  However, I do not see such fulcrums disappearing by liminating greek life. On this point, please refer to the respose I wrote to Mike.  As far as the selectivity, you are spot on, it is a selective group… as is any group whether it be a sports team or an a cappella group or an elected group such as student government.  People want to party with their friends and that is 100% acceptable.  I do NOT agree with the way some things are handled at the entrance to some of the houses, but that is partially because there are not enough places for everyone to be.  That’s one example of where the idea that expanding would come into play.  Many a times the people waiting outside are not at the house because they want to party with their friends from the house but rather because they want to party in the house.  The members of the house should be able to choose their friends out of the crowd.  But there should be more places for kids to party with their friends.  And there should be a place for people to go with their friends as a group, but it does not need to be at a fraternity house unless it is to be with a person of that house.  Many a times in the croud outside you here people yelling about how they know X brother. So what, half the time that brother isn’t actually there and the person saying they know them isn’t there to party with said brother.  Yes, this creates groups on campus, but unless the school creates a first come first served policy, that is inevitable – not to mention that if these houses move off campus it will still happen and probably much uglier than it happens now.  I don’t know you or your party habbits which means you don’t know mine.  I want you to know that I am not Greek or honorarily part of the crowd that is automatically admitted upon site, but I am someone who will stand for the mistreatement of a group, and I truely believe that “Greek life” at Trinity is being blamed and punnished for a lot of things that are not their fault.  I also believe that they are doing Greek life wrong, and changes need to happen on both sides.

        • Donald Haffenden

           Dear Lily,

          I see your points, and understand completely the accountability being held for both sides: Greek Life entities and the Administration. That said, I will echo something I said before. “Holds frats just as responsible as other groups for the ramifications of their actions”. If you see my reply to Mike’s reply to your comment (this is kind of funny :D ), I think you’ll better understand what I mean. Control and accountability mechanisms should be upheld for both sides. In effect, I offer this hopefully fitting philosophical postulate: One ought to be held accountable for the ramification of their actions, or made for circumstance. As Frat houses become party fulcrums, they must understand that they ought to be cognizant of what their choices will lead to. So I offer this- that measured chocies as to how much alcohol is administered be made. Simple inside rules of cutting off people with familiar faces on the beer line could be adopted. I think governing one’s actions given that your such a fulcrum with has a proclivity and high potentiality for adverse occurrences is a must for anyone or any entity in such a powerful and influential position. Frats, and especially Trinity College’ administration, is no exception. Hence, we thereby avoid a “demonization” of Greek Life, and achieve a measured compromise.

          As for the selectivity issue, I find a potential contradiction on which I ask you to perhaps shed light. Greek Life is often defended because it is a fulcrum of partying for the wider college population (of course not discounting the positive nature of Greek organizations to begin with). Yet you support selective admission into Greek parties. Other reflect similar sentiments. Perhaps social party expansion is an explorable solution, the fact remains that Greek houses will still appeal everyone from the casual attendee to the perpetual “raver”. Thus, such a selective procedure seems contradictory.

          Second point on selection at doors: Furthermore, in reality, many times, though what you sited that happens outside of Frat entrances is a common occurrence, so is too a overlooked occurrence: People being selected based of appearance, gender, appeal, and perceived racial background. I may cite both personal experience and observation upon request. I believe this is what Mike hints at, that is such selectivity (a mere example among examples of problematic circumstances and incidents which unfortunately arise from Greek party life) is deplorable. Will a first come first serve rule from the adminstration sovle the issue: I doubt it. Enfroce would be impractical anyway. One can only hope that Fraternities would adopt such policy in a defacto manner, and enforce it themselves. Sadly, I have less than optimistic outlooks on such a simply solution which lacks oversight. In times where people are denied entry on such often overlooked grounds, my trust in such a simple solution is understandably sparse.

          A final point on this: Overcrowding in reality has shown itself to too often times be a scapegoat explination for denial of entry to Frat parties. Often times one will get in, and witness all sorts fof fire code violations happening in one room or basement section alone. The reality is, though overcrowding is an issue, I have even personally been denied access to a Frat on the reasoning of over crowding, and seconds later seen nice younf ladies enter with conflict.

          Ultimately even if I were to grant all best cases scenarios, and cases of selectivity which involves the picking one over another will breed a sense of values and worth, that one is more deserving than others. Combine recorded instances of friend selectivity which you brought up, compounded with instances of selectivity  based on race, gender, look/appeal etc on such a campus, and you have the perfect storm.

          To end, does this mean close or limit Frats? I am unconvinced. Though we may not know each other’s party habits, I enjoy myself occasionally at various party scenes on campus including Fraternities if I am so compelled (and can get in, which given my gender, sometimes race, and even lack of connections for certain frats has been a rarity). I believe that control, accountability, oversight on both sides I a solution we must take seriously unlike is past attempts. 

          P.S. Lily, even if you ran a Greek organization yourself, I would not automatically I.D. you as a fanboy poster child blind advocate. Even if you were so affiliate,d the fact you came to the table with measured discussion which I hope you continue pleases me. I hope that anyone who is so affiliated who hopes to reply takes such an approach. I think it’s awesome, and your awesome for it. Shame that other won’t follow your example.

          P.S.S. Sorry for such a long reply…it just happened lol

          • Lily

            Donald,
             
            First of all I apologize for the delayed response; I wanted to make sure I could take time to really read over what you were saying.  Thank you for the thoughtful respose.
             
            Let me start off with saying that I feel as if you are focusing on to great points: Accountability and Admission.  I agree with you that these are both issues, but I don’t see any offering of solution in your comment, which I would be very interested to see what your ideas of solution would incorporate, because every time I think of the problem, I think of a new solution because compromising is an ever-changing exchange of countless possibilities.  I will offer a few ideas that have graced these moments.  I don’t know that these ideas are necessarily what I would consider the most ideal of situations, but let me emphasize that I believe they would be effective compromises.  I should also mention that these are not completely original ideas.  They come from experiences of friends and family at other schools as well as discussions with peers at Trinity.
             
            I will first speak on accountability.  Like the bars, when opening yourself up to people who are intoxicated, you take on a certain amount of responsibility.  Correspondingly,  when one chooses to drink, they are still liable for their own actions.  There are a few steps that combined could create a sense of accountability. 
             
            First of all, the preventative.  As part of pledging, each brother must complete a bartending course.  This has many different benefits.  It is a great, fun bonding experience, as well as teaching about the correct way to mix hard alcohol drinks and creating an awareness of how and when to cut someone off. 
             
            Putting it in action.  If one were to uphold the new social policies call to have a sober bartender at each house as well as adopting a commonly accepted “cut-off” sign.  At many bars the bartender will draw large Xs on both hands when someone needs to be cut off.  Also upholding the new social policies call to have water available at all times.
             
            The consequences.  When an incident happens in the real world, both the person and the bar are held responsible.  I believe that we should be able to hold these incidents financially responsible on a case to case basis.  It is not fun to have to pay fines for anyone, but it works.  ON THE OTHER HAND, the school should have a fund which rewards houses for their excellence.  This can be a two way street that betters the community.
             
            Now admittance…..
            First of all let me explain where I stand on this issue.  I believe that a certain amount of priority should be given to the friends of the members, but I do disagree with letting in people based on looks.  That is a hard thing to measure and enforce a difference, but not impossible.  For this I would propose a two line system.
             
            The first step in having a successful two line system is that the lines have to be established-physically established and then enforced.  The two lines would include a ticketed line and an unticketed line.  The tickets will create a pre-determined priority, and there will only be a set number of tickets given out for each night.  Beyond that, there must be a first come first served policy.  The established lines make this more possible to conduct.  One out, one in.  People in the ticketed line might get in faster at like a 3 to 1 rate.  This gives the members of the house the right to be with their friends and who they want to be with while still catering to the larger community.  By pre-determining who has that priority, people will not be unselected based on the criteria you stated – appearance, gender, and perceived racial background.  (As a little side note, I would like to mention that I used unselected rather than selected, because I don’t want to beat around the bush- the issue lies with the fact that people feel they are unselected because of certain reasons, and I have no problem with the people who get in under the same reasoning, they have done nothing wrong).
             
            On selectivity in general.  I would also like to emphasize that I am a very strong believer that expanding the Greek system CORRECTLY at Trinity would be greatly beneficial for the community.  Competition between houses forces the houses to do better for the community as a whole, including in the nightlife (which seems to be where this conversation has focused).  A greater sense of community and a less selective environment because it doesn’t become about being in Greek life, but rather being in the house that fits you, which in turn makes it less selective.  Last year one of the Kappa Kappa Gamma girls told me they had over 120 girls show up for rush, and it seemed as if many of them wanted to be Greek, and would be good for Greek life, but weren’t the right fit for the girls in that house.  That is personally how I feel.  I will be the first college attendant in my very large family who will not be Greek, and it is because I feel that there isn’t the right fit for me.  That’s really too bad because it’s a tradition and an opportunity that I really wish I could take part in, and honestly was hoping to when I chose Trinity – and I hope that does not make me the wrong kind of student attracted to Trinity.
             
            -Lily

  • Andrew Terhune ’78

    I never saw this white paper. Is it available on line anywhere?

  • Guest

    It seems like Brain Trust has returned; they have posted on the 4legs facebook page.

  • anonymous coward

    Does anyone else find it odd that these idiots want students to suffer through an obscene amount of middling philosophy classes on the meaning of the individual when in fact any semblance of individuality is quickly shot down by the omnipresent, collective hivemind that produced this hideous document in the first place? This isn’t a cry for freedom from the students, its a request that every person at Trinity adapt to a particular lifestyle that worships the frats. SURPRISE, THATS ALREADY HOW IT IS.

    Anyway, this article was an impressive response to an unbridled display of entitled whining. You are a man amongst bros, Mr. McLean.

  • WG

    The biggest impression I’m drawing from the brain trust as well as the comments on this article is that all trinity students are whiny children who simply devolve into “Lord of the Flies” style anarchy when left to their own devices under the guise of being in “student run organizations”.

  • Guest

    Looking at the Brain Trust Facebook page, it seems like they have made an ad concerning about Campus Safety.

  • TheDude

    [This comment has been marked as inappropriate by administrators.]

    • Guest

      If you think being in a frat has prepared you for “the real world,” you are laboring under a delusion. It does seem, however, to have equipped you with all the skills and conscience required to succeed in the Mafia.

    • Donald Haffenden

      I gave you the benefit of the doubt and overlooked the ad hominem attacks strewn throughout the initial “dear” paragraph in hopes of a substantive response so I may provide structured comment for a productive conversation. I held hope even through the comment about fratstars and Co. being the eventual bosses of honor council and co. I even considered not replying when you said you not going to read to reply to anyone, amounting your post to a simply dumping of your dogmatic opinion based in singular perspective and experience.

      But I read the whole thing and choose to respond because this is not for you, this is for the greater Trinity community and even other schools. Such a discussion and debate is too valuable for me to to reply to let everyone know that this is the type of comment which overshadows any shred of productive insight and perspective with personal immature attacks and insults strewn with angry sentiment and unproductive mentioning (and the feeling of advocacy for) Fratstar-to-other social echelon stereotypes and judgments. Your reply preclude such a debate, and only posits the former as your sole point.

      P.S. Not even part of honor council, and if I did, wouldn’t make much of a difference.

    • Andrew

      Thanks Arthur Chou, 
      I hope you are doing well

      • Arthur Chou

        Andrew, what is this about? Why am I referenced? Who is “TheDude”?

      • Mike Mclean

        Hey if someone wants to remain anonymous, then that’s their choice (I especially understand this choice when a comment is so ridiculous). Anyway, it’s unfair to make assumptions that a particular person wrote something. Furthermore, I know Arthur- he’s a good man and a great student, and wouldn’t write such anti-intellectual and childish garbage.

    • Mike Mclean

      Thank you sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. I’m really gonna have to re-evaluate my life now. I just wish we were all as enlightened as you. Thank you for your contribution to this otherwise shallow and pointless discussion. God speed.

  • Freespeech

    I honestly don’t find the braintrust newsworthy at all. I had never heard of them before this article was written.  Obviously they are looking for attention and you have gladly given it to them.  This article has elevated a group with about zero following (zero real likes on facebook as of writing this) to the level of representing the opposition to abolition of Greek Life.  Last year a survey was taken by the SGA about ending fraternities on campus and 73% of students supported their existence, this means any removal of these groups is running roughshot over an overwhelming majority of students.  What needs to happen is a student wide referendum allowing the students to decide their own social life.  Telling us legal age adults are incapable of deciding this on their own and need a strong central leader (President Jones)  to decide is somewhat disturbing.  Allow both sides to be presented and let Trinity decide.

    • Mike Mclean

      Hello again! I agree that Brain Trust doesn’t deserve much attention, but I believe that this topic really does. I did not intend for this to turn into a debate about Greek life, but I can’t say I’m sorry that it did. It is a subject that students need to discuss. I really like your idea of a referendum and both sides being presented. Such an event is probably a long way off, but change doesn’t happen overnight. The deciding factor will be the opinions of the students, and I will venture the guess that over the past year opinion has been shifting. Whatever happens, it’s certainly an exciting time to be a student at Trinity!

  • Wesley Simon ’14

    Hi Michael, I’m not necessarily looking for a response to any of the following, I’m just interested in posting a response. First, I wanted to let you know we’re actually one of four NESCAC schools (Hamilton, Tufts, Wesleyan) with greek organizations (making up over one-third of nescac institutions) in addition to many other top institutions of higher learning (I believe all eight ivy league schools have greek life as well as the likes of Duke, Vanderbilt, Michigan, Washington & Lee, etc.). This demonstrates that while some schools have moved away from greek life, the schools aforementioned have some of the strongest academic reputations in the US, thus, greek life clearly does have a place in higher learning.

    Student violence, bigotry, and elitism exist at every college, unfortunately, and it will continue with or without fraternities. The blame seems to be placed on them because they are the focus of the social scene, but even if cultural houses or sports teams become the focal point, there will still be a scene of partying and discrimination (welcome to the reality of college). Furthermore, aren’t all of these houses and organizations some form of brotherhood? I’m a member of a varsity sports team, a fraternity, and take part in cultural house events. Whether my teammates are encouraging me to push myself and finish the sprints at the end of practice or members of my fraternity are visiting me in the hospital after being diagnosed with a life-threatening illness, these organizations have provided me and many others (even those who aren’t members) with memorable college experiences that represent the friendships that get us through adversity and help us celebrate accomplishments. At the end of the day, cultural houses, sports teams, and fraternities are all organizations that provide affiliates with a sense of “community” and “brotherhood” and sometimes those on the outside cannot truly understand the benefits unless they are part of it. Despite that many critics mock this argument, this past Spring was my first semester in a greek organization and I can guarantee I spent more hours doing community service than each and every one of my peers who are not members of greek organizations. My first-hand experience has revealed to me that these organizations are not only capable of encouraging positive behavior amongst members, but also throughout the community.Also, you mention fraternities “attract the wrong students and create the wrong students.” If we can look beyond this gross generalization for a moment, how can fraternities be blamed for attracting the “wrong students” when our admissions committee admitted the student in the first place?  We accept students who reside in the wealthiest towns in the US and matriculate from the nation’s elite boarding schools and expect there to be no social divide or classism (I realize this is a generalization in itself, but there isn’t time to digress). It is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed, but you can’t expect to meet the challenges of today through the methods and tools of yesterday. Is it possible the route of these problems can be traced back to the administration? Reformation of the social scene may be in order and could be affective if done properly, however, expulsion of greek life seems like a cop out for the problems that have mounted up. Hopefully the administration and student body are able to address these issues accordingly rather than taking the easy way out.

    • Donald Haffenden

       Know you didn’t necessarily want a reply, but after reading it, I had to. Hand claps to you sir. It’s a breath of fresh air to hear someone advocate their position intelligently and devoid of immature nonsense. I appreciate your input and agree that expulsion does not solve the issue entirely.

    • Mike Mclean

      Hey Wes! Like Donald, I feel I must respond to this- it is simply too good to ignore. So thank you for this thoughtful and heartfelt comment. 

      To begin, I want to clarify something. I understand that there is a good side to Greek life as well as a bad side. That is, they’re not all bad and I’m not doing this because of some kind of vendetta against fraternities or partying. I love having fun with my friends, many of whom are involved in Greek life. But that being said, I believe that at the end of the day, the pros are outweighed by the cons. I really did not intend for this to turn into a debate about Greek life, and my generalizations in the article were a result of my attempt to be succinct. I’ll try to be more specific now. With regards to the “attract the wrong students” comment, I’m referring to the study which showed that an incoming freshman class at Trinity had double the national rate of alcohol addiction- before they even matriculated. At first I, like you, assumed this was the fault of admissions. But then you have to ask yourself, who is applying to Trinity in the first place? Because of our reputation as a party school which Greek life sustains, high school students who are simply looking to have a good time are attracted to Trinity, as opposed to a similar school with or without Greek life. The “wrong students are created” because Greek life at Trinity creates a culture in which irresponsible behavior is the norm, unlike other colleges where the opposite is typical. Because of this, I have to both agree and disagree with one of your statements. I agree that violence, bigotry, and alcohol abuse will continue- we live in an imperfect world after all- but after the removal of Greek life I believe that you will see a dramatic reduction in these incidents. I think that this would make the loss of these organizations worth it. A study was actually done a few years back (before any of the violent, racist incidents that have occurred in the past few years)- it sums up what I’m trying to say: ”Trinity’s Greek organizations tend disproportionately to attract wealthy and white students who are less academically engaged and have a propensity toward alcohol abuse, compared to both non-Greeks at Trinity and Greeks at other liberal arts colleges. Greek organization membership appears to en-courage dangerous drug and alcohol use that demonstrably increases the amount of sexual violence, health problems and academic problems on campus. Consequently, for some students, fraternities and sororities have come to symbolize the perceived domination of campus culture by affluent, alcohol-focused, and intellectually incurious students, contributing to our lower sense of community compared to our peers, and our higher withdrawal rates by talented students. Although Greek membership does appear to encourage participation in volunteering and a somewhat increased sense of community, these benefits appear marginal and transitory.”That being said, I do not disagree with everything you said. For one thing, the administration is not innocent in these issues, and I am the first to criticize them. For instance, we should bring back alcohol education and the supplemental essay on prejudice and parochialism. I also support your belief in community. Your support network, whether it be a sports team or your fraternity, has clearly been there for you and gotten you through hard times. But that being said, you can still have such communities without fraternities. In fact, I would argue that being in a fraternity could limit the number of such connections overall. It could also limit the quality, if the connections are based on binge drinking, partying, and so forth. If they are not based on these things, then the best part of Greek life is not based on the worst parts of Greek life, so then why don’t we just keep the fraternities and get rid of the parties? I’d love to hear your answer.At the end of the day, I see Greek life as more harmful than helpful. I believe that their removal would improve community, safety, tolerance, and academics to name a few, without harming the overall college experience of students. You don’t have to be in a frat to enjoy yourself and have close friends. It will be hard as hell, but after Greek life is gone, then we will actually be able to address the issues at Trinity in a serious way. If you or anyone else has a better suggestion, I am all ears, but I have yet to hear anything that hasn’t been tried before. Anyway, thank you so much for your comment. I really did enjoy reading it, and truly respect your opinions even though I disagree with them. Thanks again.